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22-07-2020, 02:59 PM
You are some what right about the weight. I need to see my DS1 file because I'm sure I could rock ultra great sword and great shield with havels(no real point arguing this till we test it). I didnt tho because my black knight great sword did equal damage to my ultra great and i got better swings, I changed my ultra shield because it couldn't parry Gywn.

DS3 has nerfed armour values the most in souls games it's more valuable now to put into other stats but the illusion that it's there is still there so it punished you for that choice . That's bad game design IMHO.

You can still get stomped in and DS game with armour if you don't monitor stamina which gets drained more with this build and you still get stunned and are slower so I disagree with this statement. "This is in place so you can't just trivialize the game like this by having the heaviest armor in the whole game equipped with giant offensive and defensive weapons equipped too.".

I'm torn on rating them but for me DS1 stands out as the best, maybe 3 then 2. I thought 2 was the hardest by far (Smelter Demon 2.0 nuf said...).
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22-07-2020, 04:56 PM
(22-07-2020, 02:59 PM)benswitch Wrote: DS3 has nerfed armour values

As we also spoke about, they've nerfed 1 set of armor (not all sets an all armor in general) that was generally an easy way to make most fights trivial. Havels armor is what we have been speaking about.

No generic sweeping statements about armor in general, we are only talking about 1 set of armor that has been changed. They've made individual armor sets in DS3 (and BB) so you have armor for each situation, rather than upgrading individual pieces or sets so high that it makes wearing/upgrading other armor useless without grinding for materials to make it better. DS2 has this problem mostly.


(22-07-2020, 02:59 PM)benswitch Wrote: You can still get stomped in and DS game with armour if you don't monitor stamina which gets drained more with this build and you still get stunned and are slower so I disagree with this statement.

Yes this is the case no matter what you wear, but with Havels armor you could stand there and with high poise drink you health potions without interruption. They've completely nerfed the aspect about it that let you stand around and take hits (which obviously you can't do all fight without being killed, but you know what i mean).

I never used Havels armor, if you don't have a medium or quick roll then its not worth wearing for me personally. Im all about being quick as that to me makes the game so much more manageable when you can roll out of range of hits in an instant.

People say darks souls is hard but you can trivialize parts of the game with tactics like this and other mechanics like coop. So of these aspects they've dialed back on in later games.


Case in point, this is what the armor did:





You can just sit there tanking every hit for low damage. Even if you run out of stamina your poise is so high you don't get stunned/flinched while it regenrates and you can just drink a health potion without getting interrupted either.

Is this a valid play-style? YES.

Did the game creators who think they know better than you try to adjust playing like this to bring some more skill into the game? YES.

If you relied on this to get past some difficult sections in the game then having the poise greatly reduced in DS3 and having the defense of the armor lowered would definitely be a spanner in the works.

If you played a giant tank then they've fucked up your build in DS3 by design. I don't think its bad game design, but you have a right to be upset about it.
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06-10-2020, 02:44 PM
Spelunky 2, Hades, Ghost of Tsushima!

Hades and Spelunky 2 are the ultimate jam. I don't think i need any other games this year after these two.
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